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Nina Hill, TNC (she/her)
04:58:52
what are the structures of the gridded area in the center of the island? is there any vegetation restoration as part of the project?
Thomson Soule
04:59:39
Did you consider water based observation blinds?
Nina Hill, TNC (she/her)
04:59:42
Thanks!
Curt Vacek
05:00:18
Do you know if wind direction plays any role in bird locations around the island?
Thomson Soule
05:01:23
Since use doesn't equate to benefit, how have you considered bennifit?
Jordan Baron
05:01:51
Were there any other noticeable factors that influenced bird location throughout the day?
Nina Hill, TNC (she/her)
05:02:03
maybe there is interest in helping ID birds from community scientists? shorebirds are so hard, but there's a lot of keen eyes out there!
Thomson Soule
05:02:21
How is the island benefiting the birds?
Nina Hill, TNC (she/her)
05:06:01
Thanks for the additional detail Martha! Wow, lots of woody vegetation, and invasive/non-desired veg, interesting
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
05:07:17
Thanks Stephen! Great work out there!
Thomson Soule
05:12:18
Otherwise know as the Red Lake Peatlnds
Emily Hutchins
05:29:23
Steve, were you able to determine territory size of Connecticut Warblers in your study areas? What was it and did it differ between areas?
Shelley G
05:31:03
What is this total acreage of the existing spruce stand where harvest is planned?
Thomson Soule
05:32:17
What are the top mortality factors for CW's?
Gretchen Mehmel (she/her) - MN DNR
05:32:43
Each replicate is ~50 acres. Total = ~200 acres
Shelley G
05:33:41
Thanks for the clarification.
Nick Brown
05:34:08
Did you notice any nest predation? Is this nesting strategy more or less likely to make it to hatching/fledging?
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
05:36:07
Thanks Steve! Such important work on this incredible bird and these beautiful forests.
Nick Brown
05:36:13
Great study!
Thomson Soule
05:38:09
The long history of spruce and tam logging has been for pulp
Gretchen Mehmel (she/her) - MN DNR
05:38:43
Black spruce is very marketable. One of The reasons for the study on the WMA is to show this type of harvest is doable for forestry purposes,
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
05:39:19
Thanks for the info Gretchen!
Gretchen Mehmel (she/her) - MN DNR
05:39:22
And black spruce harvest is mandated on WMAs as per STHA/I.
Nina Hill, TNC (she/her)
05:39:45
Thanks for info Gretchen, is it mostly forestry that is competing land use with habitat? including up into Canada range?
Gretchen Mehmel (she/her) - MN DNR
05:39:54
Great job on the presentation Steve!
Gretchen Mehmel (she/her) - MN DNR
05:40:50
And, I am not sure, Nina. But likely. BS harvest on state land normally requires a complete clear-cut down to every tree >3' tall.
Gretchen Mehmel (she/her) - MN DNR
05:41:20
For mistletoe management in addition to harvest for the market.
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
05:41:43
Yikes! Thanks again Gretchen!
Mark C Hove
05:42:03
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Nina Hill, TNC (she/her)
05:43:14
thanks, I look forward to learning more with the study on forestry harvest practices that are compatible with Connecticut warbler!
Reid Plumb
05:44:24
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Thomson Soule
05:44:35
BS forests are considered even-aged. Natural stands are not. Even aged management according to Forestry is needed to reproduce it.
Brian Hiller
05:46:47
Or Steve's interviews in Vegas...
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
06:02:05
Is population the issue or our overconsumption in this nation and our over-represented use of fossil fuels on the planet?
Thomson Soule
06:04:24
Thank you for your dedication and leadership in the overpopulation crisis and SEPS. You remind me of Donella Meadows. Her DOD was Monday.
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
06:06:14
We're on the cusp of mass climate refugee migration. and relocation due to our overconsumption of fossil fuels compared to other nations. Don't we have a responsibility to consider development pressures we cause other nations due to our love of inexpensive goods? (Beef production in Brazil, Avocado production destroying Monarch habitat). Aren't we just passing our resource use to other nations?
Mike North - he/him
06:07:59
I think urban sprawl is something we are more capable of getting under control. I used to do environmental review and saw so many residential developments creating 2.5 acre lots. Now lots often come in <1 acre, 1 acre, 2.5 acre, 5 acre, 10 acre, and 40 acre sizes. 2.5 is the worst, because it spreads people out too much, and yet homeowners can easily mow their entire lot. With 5 acre lots at least there is room for some greenspace between homes.
Matthew McClanahan
06:10:28
I strongly disagree with that statement that how many children is not a private matter. It is not yours or anyone else's right to tell me how many children I can have. What I can do, though, is teach my children in word and example to be wise with how they use resources and carry out their life.
Mark C Hove
06:11:00
I agree with you, Matthew
Bill Severud (he | him)
06:14:45
I don't believe we are seeing his presentation screen
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
06:15:01
Are the slides supposed to be advancing?
Jennifer Boucher
06:15:25
I was going to say, does he know he is not presenting his PP?
Nicole Davros (she/her)
06:18:00
My comment was going to be along the lines that while I don't disagree with the sentiment that we are facing an overpopulation issue, I completely disagree with the tribalism in the argument made. I would be willing to bet that many of us on the call are only 1 or 2 generations removed from immigrants - our parents/grandparents/great grandparents also sought better lives when they came here. Further, it feels very difficult to point fingers at others when many of us US citizens can be doing a much better job of improving our ecological footprint. The "white fright" that happened (and continues to happen) in the Chicago area I grew up in was/is driven by white Americans, driving their big SUVs with their multiple children - not by immigrants looking for a better life and basic human rights. This same urban sprawl is happening in many other cities in our country - chewing up valuable acres and natural resources.
Tammy Baden
06:19:36
Well said, Nicole.
Erin Gamst
06:19:40
I completely agree, Nicole.
Michelle Doerr
06:19:46
I'm with you, Nicole. I got triggered in many ways. I think population growth is one aspect and doesn't consider the system. Part of immigration is because WE in the US are consuming their resources for our overconsumption.
Nicole Davros (she/her)
06:19:48
I also agree with the sentiments above about overconsumption and just needing to teach our children to be better. Some families of 6 can live with smaller ecological footprints than some families of 2.
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
06:20:00
Amen Nicole! My sentiments exactly. The footprint of White Privilege is much larger than an immigrant family.
Mark C Hove
06:20:52
Thanks, Nicole, good points
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
06:21:23
Population is only part of the issue.
Erin Gamst
06:23:35
There is so much we can do to be more environmentally conscious in our every day lives. But I completely disagree with any β€œsolution” that was made for population growth. I think there is a reason that organizations don’t focus on controlling population growth, It feels like such a privileged opinion to have.
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
06:25:23
Good points all! I still think the issue is overconsumption.
Thomson Soule
06:29:21
So Matthew as long as families and individuals control their consumption there is no problem for anyone or anything with increasing populations per state, per country, per continent?
Nicole Davros (she/her)
06:32:40
Going back to Karen's presentation, I also want to add that the argument that black folks in this country would be doing better if it weren't for immigrants is a false narrative, based in thoughts that come out of white privilege. It pits one historically disadvantaged group against another, rather than addressing the systemic issues that we face in this country.
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
06:33:36
Well said Nicole!
karenshragg
06:34:15
Nicole PLEASE read Roy’s book before you spread that idea, it is well documented that industry much prefers to hire immigrants than African Americans and they did better every time the US clamped down on immigration
karenshragg
06:34:59
it is not pitting one group against another, it is about the actual effect of our immigration policy on those already disadvantaged due to racism and racist policies
Emily Hutchins
06:41:46
In NW MN, it is not small family farms. Corporate ag is eliminating historically unfarmed areas of wildlife habitat.
Jacob Haus
06:43:57
Congrats Mike!
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
06:45:16
Congrats all poster winners!!!!!
Nicole Davros (she/her)
06:45:33
Congrats to all the winners!
1-Charlotte Roy
06:45:35
Great work students!
Bill Severud (he | him)
06:45:48
Congrats to the students!
Mike Malling
06:46:18
thnx to lindsey for coordinating!
1-Charlotte Roy
06:46:37
Thanks Lindsey!
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
07:21:14
Do you plan to continue the surveys as the habitat work and restorations succeed or grow up again to find the habitat sweet spots?
Mark Nelson
07:21:26
How have natural disturbance regimes changed?
Bill Severud (he | him)
07:21:39
Can you put out passive recorders?
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
07:23:19
Thanks! Nice work! I hope we can replicate some of it in the St Louis River Estuary as we attempt to restore hemi-marshlands.
Bill Severud (he | him)
07:35:46
Impressed with response rate...disappointed some of the membership doesn't see as much value in DEI work
Kyle Daly USFWS WSFR he/him
07:36:03
Members responded with all answers to questions - can't please everyone
Thomson Soule
07:36:36
What is the difference between the objectives of affirmative action and dei
Bill Severud (he | him)
07:37:47
Here here, Kristin!
Mike North - he/him
07:38:23
This isn't just being talked about in MNTWS. I was at the SAF/SFEC wildlife forestry research workshop last week and SAF held a DEI survey and presentation as well.
Thomson Soule
07:39:27
Other than the long term data of discrimination of women and people of color is their data on others?
Mike North - he/him
07:41:03
DEI is something all members can implement. Affirmative action is in the realm of administrators
Thomson Soule
07:41:57
So Affirm gets you in the roiom dei gets you heard?
Megan Fitzpatrick
07:42:04
Perhaps affirmative action is a tool toward improving DEI?
John P Loegering
07:42:53
I see AA as more about representation based on population diversity categories and an attempt to make the organization reflect the publics they represent
Thomson Soule
07:45:51
If we know DEI is not being practiced how do we know and since we know isn't there some quantification of some metric?
Nicole Davros (she/her)
07:46:14
Sneak peek at the report - For the demographics question: Responses mentioned gender or sex 79 times, race or ethnicity 55 times, age 39 times, relationship status 30 times, sexual orientation 14 times, career stage 8 times, parental status 5 times, religious information 3 times, and neurodiversity 2 times. Non-disabled, parent of diverse children, low-income, in recovery, and ally were all terms used 1 time each by respondents in describing themselves.
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
07:48:56
Check out this video that explains DEI in a very simple example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX_Vzl-r8NY The Unequal Opportunity Race
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
07:52:37
Thanks Nicole! Right on!
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
07:53:23
Correct Michelle. It's a lifelong process of self improvement and understanding.
John P Loegering
07:53:30
We can only grow through discomfort
Thomson Soule
07:53:31
So DEI is mostly individual behavior based?
Kristin Hall
07:53:33
Yes, Nicole thanks for the personal perspective and for putting it so well - we do need to be inclusive not exclusionary! THANK YOU
Thomson Soule
07:56:30
How important is a common understanding of DEI words, language and terminology
John P Loegering
07:56:41
And as we move forward, I (and we) need to accept that we each will make those mistakes. The key in my mind is to assure we have supportive colleagues around us who will check us and help each individual grow.
Mike Malling
07:56:49
FYI... mn valley nwr/wmd in Bloomington and Carver offices (FWS) and our partners are heading an urban initiative and dealing with inclusion in many ways. From hiring to changing land uses and management, and most importantly welcoming all to their public lands.
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
07:57:08
Thanks SOOOO much for your efforts DEI Committee! Your work can only benefit us all, our chapter, society & profession.
Michelle Doerr
07:57:22
Thomson - There is a document with some language. In the end, it is how we each interpret.
Bill Severud (he | him)
07:57:23
Thank you DEI Committee!
Matthew McClanahan
07:57:28
I wouldn't mind hearing some of these stories. I have experienced persecution in the workplace because of my religion. Almost daily harassment, was my first job in natural resources.
Steve Windels
07:57:28
Thanks, all! Important work moving us forward.
John P Loegering
07:57:34
Isn't folks a bit ageist?
Megan Fitzpatrick
07:57:34
Yes, thank you DEI committee!!!
Kyle Daly USFWS WSFR he/him
07:58:00
My observation is that not everyone in the Chapter is willing to do the work, but my opinion is if you care about the people in the wildlife conservation profession, their ideas and there experiences, this needs to be met head on in all corners of the profession. Do you think we, as a Chapter, are at a critical mass to do the work?
Kristin Hall
07:58:26
I use crew often
Kristin Hall
07:58:35
"hey crew"
Bill Severud (he | him)
07:58:50
"y'all" here
Mark Nelson
07:58:53
Maybe Brian is a 'Folks Hero'.
Nicole Davros (she/her)
08:00:43
I have a great little "meme" with alternatives on "hey guys" phrasings that I can share. "Hey Movers and Shakers" and "Hey Change Makers" are some of my favorites for work situations!
Michelle Doerr
08:01:50
Here is a language resource for DEI : https://cdn.naaee.org/sites/default/files/eepro/resource/files/di-vocab-sheet.pdf
Nicole Davros (she/her)
08:02:54
I agree, Kyle. Not sure if we are at critical mass. We would love others to join us in this effort! Lots of little action items in the report that folks can tackle to help out, or just do on their own to help make a difference.
Sara Vacek
08:03:34
saravacek5@gmail.com (for the DEI mailing list)
Kyle Daly USFWS WSFR he/him
08:05:01
action items are always beneficial and I do believe the members of this Chapter care deeply about each other and our cumulative success/failures in wildlife conservation.
Michelle Doerr
08:06:44
Here is also a video that we use in Power of Inclusion series early on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC7lbdD1hq0
Matthew McClanahan
08:07:40
I meant receiving DEI stories via email, not publicly in this forum, of course :)
Bruce
08:08:24
I look forward to closely working with the DEI Committee and others during the coming year in my new position...will need your help and coaching...
Mark C Hove
08:14:22
I’m right there with you, Bruce
Mark C Hove
08:15:00
That is, I benefit from coaching all the time
Michelle Doerr
08:19:47
Life online - dogs, kids all of life present .:)
John P Loegering
08:20:05
Let's all celebrate the dogs in our lives!
Mark C Hove
08:20:15
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John P Loegering
08:20:15
…. and other companions
Michelle Doerr
08:20:18
Woof
Nicole Davros (she/her)
08:20:53
Oh no! I use "folks" all the time! It's how I've tried to untrain myself from "guys"...
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
08:21:12
My 4-lgged co-worker has kept me sane the past 2.5 years. πŸ˜„
Nicole Davros (she/her)
08:22:55
My elderly cats were much more well-behaved co-workers than my new kittens. I apologize to all in advance for the kittens... 😹
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
08:23:34
😁
Mark Nelson
08:25:51
The old adage that "good forest management is good wildlife management" was being challenged over forty years ago. Where are we today?
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
08:26:35
Thanks Gary, to you and the rest of the Stewardship Network for being the voice for our resources.
Ted Dick
08:26:56
Thanks Gary and group.
Gretchen Mehmel (she/her) - MN DNR
08:28:12
Mark, in answer to your question, I would say - yes, it's still being challenged. Many in the DNR and industry still believe it to be true.
Jeanine Vorland
08:28:28
Cats head for the keyboard and hang up.
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
08:34:13
😁
Thomson Soule
08:38:08
"Good forest management is good wildlife management" pales, in relation (degradation, destruction, disfunction, poisoning) to the myth that "farmers' are the original environmentalists
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
08:42:55
Thom, I hear that line substituting loggers vs farmers every day. Forest practices have changed a lot in the past 2 decades. You could list all of those same practices degrading forest resources as we speak.
Thomson Soule
08:47:45
It's just as important, actually more important for Wildlife to admit face its own myths and biases.
John P Loegering
08:51:20
So who is likely to oppose RAWA?
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
08:52:16
Agreed Thom! I've never agreed with the phrase that "Foresters do more wildlife management by accident than Wildlife Biologists do", either.
Michelle Doerr
08:53:02
Thanks Kyle
Mark Nelson
08:53:50
Kyle - do states with less or more restrictions on firearms receive, respectively, relatively more or less benefit via PR due to associated sales?
Michelle Doerr
08:54:37
Great question, Mark
Thomson Soule
08:56:29
Is the conflict impact between "shooters" contributions the fund and their negative contributions to wildlife conservation public lands known?
Michelle Doerr
08:57:01
And thank the industry who right the checks. For many this is their top line item.
Michelle Doerr
08:57:09
Write. ugh
Mike Malling - USFWS
08:58:49
Kyle - can you plz tie in Diversity and inclusion into the use of these funds please? Is this being promoted and receiving attention please? Thank you
Thomson Soule
08:59:12
How they vote and what they support
Mark Nelson
09:00:28
Are there opportunities to recruit new gunowners who are not hunters to become hunters? Same for archery? Would that be a reverse direction than historical pathways between hunting and firearms?
Michelle Doerr
09:01:04
BTW - Please submit diverse outdoor stories to https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/aboutdnr/outdoor-adventure/index.html
Mark Nelson
09:02:31
Thank you, Kyle!
1-Charlotte Roy
09:02:33
Thanks, Kyle!
Michelle Doerr
09:02:38
Thanks Kyle
Ted Dick
09:03:02
Nice job Kyle. Thank you.
Michelle Doerr
09:03:20
That plenary rocked! I was a little overwhelmed and also really enjoyed it.
Steve Windels
09:04:57
shots fired!
Nicole Davros (she/her)
09:04:57
Y'all did an excellent job making the pivot to virtual in such short order. Nice work!!
Kat Dickerson
09:05:08
Thanks everyone! I know it was a lot of work and it was great!
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
09:05:12
Thanks all, for a wonderful meeting, even if only virtual. The same amount of work was required to pull this off I know. Kudos to all who helped and those who presented and participated. Miss seeing you in person! Here's to 2023! Thanks again!
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
09:06:09
Thanks Kyle for all you do with the PR and WMA issue!
Mark C Hove
09:06:21
Good job Movers and Shakers, thank you!
Nicole Davros (she/her)
09:06:44
Gather.Town still makes me giggle but it was a great alternative considering we couldn't meet with students in person!
Mike Malling - USFWS
09:06:44
you should have had John try to do the quiz bowl remotely!πŸ˜†
Mike Malling - USFWS
09:07:41
Gr8 work folks! Thanks so much for an awesome meeting!
Martha Minchak (she/her/hers/birdbrain)
09:07:41
πŸ˜„ I was thinking that too!
Jennifer Boucher
09:07:46
Thanks everyone! It was a rush, inspirational and thought provoking as usual :) Great job! SEE you next year!